H.R.5717- Is it as bad as they say?
Categories: News, Shooting Charlotte Reavis March 29, 2020
There is a lot going on in the world and the United States right now. One of these things is the proposal of H.R.5717, or the “Gun Violence prevention and Community safety Act of 2020,” to Congress earlier this year. We decided dig a little deeper to see what exactly H.R.5717 is all about and what it says. Maybe it’s not so bad?
Right off the bat, H.R.5717 comes out swinging. The text of the bill says “…build safer communities by strengthening Federal firearms laws…” This is obviously going to be a bill about stricter gun laws, but will it impede the 2nd Amendment? We keep reading.
After sorting through the initial congressional verbiage, we get to the juicy parts. This proposed bill immediately states all future gun owners will have to obtain a Federal license. This is in addition to any state license you may already have.
It gets better. You will have to be licensed for both firearms and ammunition. That’s right, any ammunition you would like to purchase, you must be federally licensed. Plus, there will be a mandatory 7 business day wait period.
That’s just the first couple of paragraphs. As we continue to peruse the jargon, we are quickly led to the section clearly titled “Assault weapons and firearms silencers and mufflers ban.” This is where it gets really interesting.
For starters, all AKs and ARs- gone. They will only be authorized very limited manufacturing and they will essentially not be allowed for public purchase. This also includes any caliber of magazine that holds more than 10 rounds. Except, of course, .22 caliber ammunition. (Those tiny little guys can’t do any harm, right?)
After this bill is enacted, the aforementioned products will also have to have a date stamped onto them. This is to ensure the validity of the legal purchase. Something else we found in the bill- very long lists of the brands and types of AKs, ARs, etc. that will be illegal if this bill passes Congress.
We wished it abruptly ended there, however, it did not. We also read that places of business will have stricter regulations for sales and purchases of firearms. All firearms and ammunition will have to be kept in secure metal cabinets, behind several locks and other methods of ‘safety.’
This includes the methods of which guns are kept in the home as well. They will have to be fully secured at all times, and everyone legal in the home will have to have a license. Each firearm will also have to have locks, at least that’s how we read it.
Something peculiar also caught our eye regarding gun shop sales, leases, and rentals. They will have to submit a report to the ATF every 5 days. That report will have to include your name, residence, occupation and gender. (No mention of phone or email information, but your gender matters when purchasing a pistol or rifle ammo.)
As we were finally getting to the end of the bill, we saw a part about weapons taxes. This bill is proposing 30% taxation on all firearm sales and 50% taxation on all ammunition sales. These taxes will be used to “research gun violence and prevention.”
The bill wraps up talking about how grants will be used to fund the research and something about $50,000,000 a year to the Attorney General’s office for research also. To be honest, at this point, our eyes were starting to cross a little because the congressional jargon is heavy.
We are even pretty sure we missed some really big points within the proposed bill as well. If we printed it, it would be almost 60 sheets of paper! All in all, H.R.5717 seems to propose quite a bit that does not exactly sit kosher with the 2nd Amendment.
What do you think? Did we translate this bill wrong? Do you agree or disagree with H.R.5717? It does state that all of this only applies to firearms and purchases after the bill is passed.
You can also read the proposal, in it’s entirety and for yourself, here.
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March 30, 2020 at 1:53 am
I disagree with H.R.5717 . I feel like firearm safety is a must and needs to be unforced yes . Honestly I feel there should be a hunters safety corse in all middle schools. But to tell us the ppl how we need to store are weapons and ammo is insane. Then wanna tax is upwards of 50% on ammo is mind boggling. I’d put money on 90% of the ppl trying to pass these laws couldn’t even tell you what end of the gun the bullet exits the weapon when fired
March 30, 2020 at 9:42 am
You guys are spot on. This is a travesty. It is a direct assault on the 2nd Amendment. If they were interested in actually making a difference you could enforce the existing gun laws and utilize Federal prosecutions (existing laws), but that’s not the objective. The really bad news is that this would likely be a short cut to a 2nd Civil War if passed.
John McGee says: March 30, 2020 at 10:45 am
I’m a 33 yr (retired) law enforcement veteran. My career path was SWAT, Motors and training and I am not, repeat, NOT an attorney. I do; however, know how to read law and interpret them for enforcement, probable cause, etc….and after SKIMMING this proposed legislation, I smell a HUGE RAT! Vague verbiage leaving a lot of discretion to whatever governmental authority tasked with enforcement. A background check to get your mandated federal firearms possession license and ammunition license that will be closely akin to getting a concealed carry in New Jersey …. to many excuses to deny the citizens their 2nd Amendment rights. You’ve already mentioned the exorbitant excise tax that will funnel $$ straight to the politicians whos goal is to disarm the population.
Christina Melancon says:
March 30, 2020 at 11:59 am
More democRATS trying to infringe on our constitutional rights. Stock up and lock up!!
Christina M Powers says:
March 30, 2020 at 12:00 pm
I do NOT agree with any new gun laws! It is interesting to me that we have more gun laws now and more violence/crime BUT back when there were less or NO gun laws or restrictions we had less gun crimes and/or violence………… Gun laws/restrictions do NOT help anything or anyone except CRIMINALS! What happened to the wonderful thing called…… COMMON SENSE!
March 31, 2020 at 7:51 am
Kathi Gault says:
March 31, 2020 at 10:22 am
I definitely believe it infringes on our Constitutional right to bear arms. They are trying to quickly whittle away at what types of guns we can own, our ability to buy a gun by making each step more difficult. Trying to pigeonhole who’s buying the most weapons and ammo by gender and job. They want to tax our firearms and ammo so high that it’s going to cost beyond a small fortune to protect ourselves, our loved ones and our homes. I myself sit outside late at night in the cool and calm, on 7 acres but 2/10 of a mile from the road. On more than one occasion, I have had to scare off a few individuals coming through the woods from the road trying to steal something around mine and my families houses. I’m sure as hell not using my .22 pistol to do that. My family owns AR’s. My daddy passed his on to my cousin before he died. No one is taking these away. That was the first AR i ever fired. My dad didn’t spend 21 years in the military and serve during Desert Storm to see any of this taken away after he was gone.
He fought for gun rights up until his last breath. They believe the harder they make it to purchase guns and ammo, the less it will get bought and the wrong kind of people won’t get their hands on them. Absolutely not true! They can’t take our Constitutional rights away from us! I won’t stand for it and my late USNR father will be there with me as well as every damn family and friend I have!
JJ m Jones says:
March 31, 2020 at 11:31 am
The H.R. 5717 bill proposition is bullshit!!! It’s basically putting stipulations on our 2nd amendment rights!!! If this goes into effect all of us Gun owners are fucked!! I guess that’s when we will be the criminals!! I will be buying as much ammo and as many guns as I can now because apparently this doesn’t affect the guns and ammo we already own!!! But I’m sure they’ll make a way to make that illegal for us and it will affect it somehow!! All I can say is it’s bullshit! This is America the land of the free!! And they are taking away our freedom and our right to bear arms if this is approved!!!
Camill Snow says:
March 31, 2020 at 12:53 pm
Excited to be a part of something so awesome.
April 1, 2020 at 7:19 am
I feel as if forearm safety is a MUST
Kip Smith says:
April 1, 2020 at 11:11 pm
This is obsurd to say the least! Our rights are constantly in danger. H.R.5717 is a joke.I for one do not support this. I’m thankful for Gruntstyle and the information that they make available to the public to keep us aware.
Andy Osteen Sr says:
April 2, 2020 at 6:18 am
H.R. 5717 is a complete violation of the 2nd Ammendment and the type of bill that would be followed by Gun Confiscation. This should not even receive enough support to be scheduled for a vote.
Gregory Pitts says:
April 2, 2020 at 8:04 am
This is exactly the kind of crap those snakes attach to other bills. You know just “sign it and read it later”. These are seeds of revolution.
Keith mainville says:
April 2, 2020 at 9:07 am
Fuck this bill
April 2, 2020 at 7:04 pm
Looks like if it passes I will be an outlaw . No one will take my AR or AK ! Only one of two ways they can get the bullet first ,or out of my cold dead hands! Now don’t get me wrong I am a firm believer in Gun safety. But this just keeps the guns in the hands of criminals. Will not stand for it. Sounds like they want to take our guns so they can release the hounds then we can’t protect ourselves against the corrupt government.
Teresa Canoy says:
April 2, 2020 at 7:10 pm
Read it a couple days ago. You’re completely right, its a bad bill being pushed through while everyone is focusing on other things. It needs to be voted down immediately.
April 2, 2020 at 7:12 pm
Linda K says: April 2, 2020 at 7:33 pm
Quite frankly .. this is a bunch of
Do I need to shout that??
This is beyond infringing on the 2A!!
April 2, 2020 at 7:55 pm
I’ve read it a few times myself! I myself don’t like it! Not at all. I live in Tax-A-Chusetts! We have to already jump through too many hoops as it is! This is purely a way for the to go after your guns.
The Democrats are mostly behind this, need I say more about that! The only way that I might be interested in a federal license is that I could cross the state lines without any problem!! Otherwise, I don’t think that it’s very good for us or the second Ammendment!
Ruben Vlad says: April 2, 2020 at 8:33 pm
This ridiculous. Our current laws were ok, bot great, but something I think most of us could live with, but this B.S. , not only does it not save lives, it is simply a tax grab that simultaneously endangers innocents and completely ignores the second amendment. So first Pelosi and the house fuck us over the stimulus package, then this!!!!!! Vote these traitorous whores out of office ASAP. We the people won’t take much more of this bullshit and there’s always the pink mist solution.
Donna Blanchard says:
April 2, 2020 at 8:40 pm
I think it sucks and they are infringing on our personal rights to own a gun period. They need to back the hell off. Need to open mental hospitals so the crazies can be locked up where they can’t do any harm. Of course that would make to much sense!
Donald Tharp says:
April 2, 2020 at 10:13 pm
Them sobs lost their minds. No way are we England!!!!£
April 2, 2020 at 11:16 pm
You missed nationwide red flag laws and the ability to be charged with trafficking if you sell to any one that doesn’t have GOVERNMENT permission to own a gun. Complete gutting and total neutering of the 2nd Amendment. These communists need to be drug out into the streets, tarred and feathered for violating their oath to uphold the constitution.